Stableminded · · 48 min

The Stablecoin Card Company That Raised Over $300M in 12 Months

With Charles Yoo-Naut, Rain

Key takeaways

  • Rain announced a $250 million Series C in January, led by Iconic Ventures, at a $1.95 billion valuation.

  • Charles Yoo-Naut says Rain processes over 3 billion in annualized card volume and settles with Visa Inc in USDC seven days a week.

  • Rain went from 15 people to about 95 in a year, and Charles Yoo-Naut says AI agents now do first-pass compliance review and support work.

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Summary

The stablecoin card issuer's co-founder says Rain settles with Visa in USDC every day and is using AI agents so it can grow without hiring in step.

Rain, a stablecoin card issuing company, announced a $250 million Series C in January. The round was led by Iconic Ventures and values the company at $1.95 billion. Co-founder and CTO Charles Yoo-Naut says Rain now processes over 3 billion in annualized card transaction volume, wherever Visa is accepted.

An early bet on spendable stablecoins

Charles Yoo-Naut says he and Farouk started Rain towards the end of 2021, after building conviction that cards were the best way to make stablecoins globally accepted. He says he was frustrated in 2022 and 2023 when people were still looking for crypto use cases, because moving money in traditional fintech was "so broken."

“It was kind of frustrating to me when we were building in 2022, 2023, and people were trying to figure out use cases for crypto. And I'm like, it's right in front of everyone's face. We're like, just moving money is so broken in the traditional fintech world. Like blockchain, crypto, stablecoins, we've already built something that's way better than is available.”
Charles Yoo-Naut

Settling on Visa rails in USDC

Rain settles with Visa Inc in USDC seven days a week, including holidays and weekends, paying for each day's volume. Charles Yoo-Naut says some Visa merchants already receive stablecoins, so for certain purchases stablecoins pass from cardholder to merchant on Visa rails. As a non-bank principal member of Visa, he says, Rain replaces the bank partner, program manager and reseller in the issuing stack.

He expects the line between a stablecoin payment and a card payment to blur, leaving "value being transacted on a network."

Customers and faster launches

Charles Yoo-Naut says any financial product can be delivered faster, cheaper and in more markets on stablecoin rails. Rain announced a partnership with Western Union for remittances. He says a traditional banking partner can take six months a year to issue a first card, while one Rain customer went live in 17 days, helped by tools from Mintlify, Coast and Stainless.

Scaling with agents

Charles Yoo-Naut says Rain wants to avoid Block's over-hiring and weighs each hire against what AI will do in 12 or 24 months. He says one compliance person can be armed with 10 agents, and the single business development lead, Nick, works with 20 agents.

On agentic commerce, he says agents already use existing cards, and tokens such as Visa Inc Intelligent Commerce make this safer. He describes an emerging idea of "know your agent," and says Rain does not let staff use Cloudbot because the controls are not there yet.

Charles Yoo-Naut describes Rain as a card issuer that is already moving stablecoins through Visa rails. He expects microtransactions to stop being blocked by infrastructure and expects AI and crypto to converge.

Visa Inc, Coast, Mintlify, and Altitude come up most.

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Global stablecoin infrastructure and card-issuing platform. Rain provides APIs for stablecoin cards, wallets, on/offramps, rewards, and cross-border payments.

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