Stabledash Live · · 29 min
The Two Disruptions Reshaping Payments and Why the Next Million Users Won't Be Humans
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Arthur Bedel
Key takeaways
Arthur Bedel has invested in Royalties, a company founded by his friend Kevin that makes humans an asset people can invest in.
Bedel sees two disruptions in payments, new rails such as stablecoins and the adoption of AI, and says infrastructure built for card present has to change.
He predicts that by 2040 agents will buy things and move money on people's behalf, and he says agentic commerce is already here.
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Summary
The Connecting the Dots co-founder backs a bet on people as assets while arguing that stablecoins and AI agents will force payments to be rebuilt.
Arthur Bedel, co-founder of the payments media platform Connecting the Dots, says he has invested in Royalties, a company founded by a friend named Kevin. According to Bedel, Royalties is "making humans an asset that you can invest in." The investment fits a broader view he set out: that AI agents and new payment rails are changing who, and what, moves money.
Two disruptions at once
Arthur Bedel says two major disruptions are under way: a change in the rails payments run on, and the adoption of AI. In his view payments "was actually built for card present," and that has to evolve. He expects that "soon we're gonna have more agents present than actually humans."
Looking to 2040, Bedel predicts everything will be hyper personalized, with agents purchasing and moving money for people. He expects all rails to become interoperable, agents to have something like their own banking super app, and trading to become agents competing against agents. He also argues payments is already a commodity and should be priced on the value it enables, not per transaction.
“Like, soon we're gonna have more agents present than actually actually humans. Right? So, like, we have to accommodate for this.”
Arthur BedelData as the asset
Bedel points to YouR AI, which he says is building digital twins that can perform everyday tasks, and argues that data itself will become a currency for training models. "Data is gonna be queen," he says.
Lessons from Peru
Bedel says Peru is building a local rail modeled on UPI and Pix, with officials studying the Indian system. He notes that in India banks lost ownership of the consumer to PhonePe and Google Pay. Peru's two main wallets already have 18,000,000 customers, he says, and he warned banks they could become Blockbuster if they don't build super apps. He describes three forces: UPI-style rails, then Open Finance, then agentic commerce on top. He also wants global regulations by 2040 so agentic commerce can scale.
New media push
Arthur Bedel has launched PayUp, a daily video series that takes one payments news item each day across LinkedIn, YouTube, TikTok and Instagram, and hired a head of marketing for it. He recommends following Marcel Van Oost, who he says has 300,000 followers on LinkedIn.
Taken together, the investment in Royalties and Bedel's forecasts point the same way. He expects agents and data, more than cards, to drive payments, and he says regulation and banks need to catch up. In his words, agentic commerce "is coming, period. It's already here."
Google Pay, VGS, Royalties, and PhonePe come up most.
- People
- Arthur Bedel
- Marcel Van Oost
- Drew Rogers
- Kevin
- Alexander Simpson
- Zach Fowler
- Companies
- Google Pay
- VGS
- Royalties
- PhonePe
- YouR AI
- Deuna
- Mastercard
- Connecting the Dots in Payments
- ABL Labs
- Banco Central do Brasil
- Dfns
- NPCI
- Nuvei
- Visa Ventures


